Too funny...I am starting tomorrow and the whole idea of scaring the crap out of you in order to avoid crapping the crap out of you...yeah...going grocery shopping right now!

Jenisis:

Thank you all for defending me :).

Jenisis, you are my new personal hero!! :)

lol, cool

I realized very quickly that the Alli is a hard mistress...she accepts no insolence. its a dead horse, but almost every diet advice i have read has said that the occasional treat is not the worst thing. one source (The Abs Diet -Men's Health) even suggested that a high calorie day can break a diet rut. of course alli has no tolerance for a "free day". Enter at your own risk. you know? The first posts i read on here (before even opening my alli box) were the horror stories and i am glad for it. They prepared me for the seriousness required to make this work. The drove home the point that i had to look at food as fuel instead of pleasure, to control my portions and choose what is best for me. That said, i have, just due to lifestyle, 1-2 meals a week (out of 21 meals) that are not alli-recommended...i have still lost 10lbs in 3 weeks. Additionally those horror stories prepared me for what happened after those poor eating choices. Alli-oops indeed. i believe people who are like "well then stop eating everything in sight" are making very broad assumptions. My 2 pesos would be that there are some definite "Type A" individuals here who could go the next 5 years eating exactly the right amount of calories and fat. and then there are the rest of us humans on here as well. Find the foods that are alli-plan safe and satisfying. This will make the diet less a chore and if for one meal out of the week you get your groove on...i look at you as a success story and not a failure. Here is to the wonderful feeling of being able to finally wear our favorite clothes because they fit once again!

Clearly you're not an emotional eater. if it were easy to stick to a diet, we'd all be at healthy weights and weight loss would not be a multi-billion dollar industry. We seek encouragement from other people experiencing the same issues, we don't need people like you SCREAMING the obvious to us.

justifide,

 LOVE your post...especially "fear of loading your pants," which, by the way is what motivates me :-)  I've had watery stools but not greasy stools - perhaps because I knew I was going to cheat and didn't take pills for 2 days.  Still have lost nearly 15# in 2.5 weeks.

 I'll post what follows in the relevant area, but I think the key to weight loss is EATING ENOUGH.  I'm 5'7", 45 y.o., 210 start weight.  I follow the meal plan and eat A LOT!!!  My target is 19 fat grams per meal and I achieve it without too much trouble.  I also eat 1800 calories a day - just like they tell me.  I think this is key.  That's a fundamental difference between the nutritional strategy WITH an Alli supplement and the caloric intake restrictions without Alli - ...eating right is what makes Alli work.

 Lynnell

Hi Everyone,

I need to clarify that the MONITORS are the ones who approve what is allowed on the board and MODERATORS are the experts who are here to respond to the questions on the posts.

When posts start taking a turn like this it's hard to come up with the response that will satisfy everyone. I was at the intitial press conference when orlistat came out. This is the prescription strength version of alli. The research on it's effectiveness was great and everyone in the obesity research and treatment field was excited about the impact that this would have on helping people lose weight. The only thing that anyone ever knew about that drug was the "anal leakage" that was mentioned on the commercials. When alli, the first FDA approved weight loss drug, was being made available to the public without a prescription the conversations focused on the potential treatment effects. Both of these products have experts and research supporting them and yet that isn't what people are talking about. When so much surrounds the treatment effects, it is understandable why people are so openly discussing it. If you can't talk about what is happening for you while taking this on here, where can you talk about it?

The beauty of a message board is that there are subject headings and the ability to skip over posts that you are not interested in. If you start reading something that you can't relate to than there are lots of other possibilities to move on to. You can simply close the post that you were reading and no one will get offended. This board is reaching people all over the country so it is expected that not everyone will have the same interests, likes, and dislikes. There are plenty of "negative" posts to join in on if you want to vent or share any "negative" thoughts. If you see a post where people are sharing things together, there really is no need to pass judgement or intrude on the conversation with something that clearly doesn't belong there. Feel free to start a new post if you there is something that comes to mind when reading things. The less time spent with conflict, the more time to help everyone reach their goal. Everyone starts out here with the same hopes so regardless of your differences you do have something in common.

Betty Kovacs, MS, RD

Thank You for another great post Betty.  We DO need to share our experiences on these discussion boards. 

I agree,

my first week I cheated and went past the 14 grms of fat, I almost could not make it out of bed the next morning where it seems like I evacuated everything in my bowels,(I was Happy actually), now it does nothing but give me looser stools one time in the morning, thats it, then I feel crappy the rest of the day

Thank you Betty...I couldn't have said it any better.

So anyway, where were we? 

Oh yes, I actually had a hot dog and a cup of Ben and Jerry's ice cream while at the airport the other day and within 24 hours I had my very first (and it better be the last!) TE.  It wasn't so bad, but it reminded me that I better be good, or the TE's might get worse!  Thank goodness I was home!

To get stains out, rinse your clothes out with cold water, then smear the stain with shout or stain stick or even bar soap until you throw it in the wash. 

 I just would do everything to avoid getting a treatment effect, though, in the first place.

BTW, I've lost 8 lbs in the 2 weeks I've been on the diet.  Only 30 more pounds to go.  (It seems so far away!) Will we all be here still in December or January?  I hope so because I plan on sticking to it!

Hi, I just wanted to let you know that I took the med when it was a prescription and had the same orange oily TE's back then, however, back then I ate fast food quite often and really didn't watch my fat content. Now I watch my fat content and because of my weight they tell me not to go over 19 grams of fat per meal. I was lucky if I even hit 10 grams and was doing fine. No TE's but very constipated, so I hear that its because I haven't had enough fat in my diet. The first meal I have 15 grams I have major TE's for 2 days even though I barely had any fat after that! I just stopped taking the pill at all for about 5 days and am going to try again. I do not want to become dependent on senokot or other laxatives, so we will see. Oh, and I drink about 10 glasses of water a day as I have always loved water and really don't drink anything else. So they can't say I don't drink enough. Anyway, as for weight loss, believe it or not I just lost 3lbs while being off of the alli...so I really don't know what to think. All I can say is that this over the counter product is the same as the product that people received with a prescription and that the best way to stop the TE's for me was to stop the pills for awhile and don't overdo with the fats. I do believe any part of weight loss is behavior modification and with most diets people really don't suffer any major consequences other than not losing weight, so they figured they would be more successful if they scared us into not cheating with TE's!  Good luck all!

ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!

I think I love you guys.......(tear)

I happen to be the "skinny" one in my family, being 5' 9" and currently weighing 191.  My Mom has always been well over 200# and 5' 3", my sister is 5' 4" and also well over 200# , Pops is 6' 4" and pushing the 300 mark.  My daughter is 5' 11" and weighs about 240 now I think.  So I don't have a huge problem seeing this from both sides of the fence.  I won't go into what I think of skinny folks who think their fat.  Whole 'nother story that involves fat suites and reality.

Part of what I love about this program is the online support via THIS forum.  I consider myself to be a relatively intelligent person and am capable of (and in fact DID) research Alli prior to making the decision to commit to it.

But none of what I read anywhere else on the great big world wide web has been nearly as informative as the detailed, dare I say, "blow by blow" descriptions of actual user experiences. 

I for one truly appreciate all the input on all the output!

Jan 

you crack me up!!!!!!!!!!! everybody it's different and it's up to the person!! LMAO......I couldn't, I was bust out laughing cause it was funny........it's true so much talk about poopies, the colors and smells it feels like a message board for Microbiology for Labcorp Co. take care guys hope for everyone a good experience somehow!

I wonder if people have different experiences based on what they drink and how much.  I drink a lot of water and coffee.  This is my second day and I had the orange stuff about 5-10 minutes after I ate breakfast (egg whites with a little bit of yolk).